The girls go down a rabbit hole on regional dialects and mispronunciation. They also recap their time at Pagan Pride and how they decompress after events. They then welcome back Phyllis Curott to talk about the new Witches’ Wisdom Tarot along with a sneak peek at what she’ll be presenting at So Mote That Con ’23!

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Our Guest Today:

Spiritual pioneer, Phyllis Curott is an attorney, writer and one of America’s first public Witches. Her 5 international best-selling books have been published in 14 languages, making her the most widely published Wiccan author. An outspoken advocate in the courts and media, she handled or consulted on groundbreaking cases securing the legal rights of Witches, including cases of child custody, religious assembly, organization, expression, and free speech. Phyllis was the first Wiccan Trustee of the Parliament of the World’s Religions, and was elected Vice Chair of the 2015 Parliament, creating the Women’s Assembly, and served as the Program Chair for both the 2021 Virtual Parliament and the 2023 Parliament of the World’s Religions in Chicago.

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